In an interview with The Associated Press, Adam Driver says he developed a Kylo Ren “Star Wars” movie that would have been directed by Steven Soderbergh.

In an interview by phone, he spoke about that prophetic 2011 film, leading Hollywood’s return to production and the future of the movie industry post-pandemic. Soderbergh: At the end of the day, what’s most important and irreducible is: You need talented people making stuff that’s good. AP: Do you think the kinds of movies that get made will change if the industry permanently shifts toward streaming? When you make a movie that blows up at the box office, that’s just too lucrative to ever abandon. There’s a zeitgeist aspect to any movie that makes $1 billion, and it’s got an expiration date.